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Thursday, September 23, 2004

Smart Padala Woes

There's a fellow who posted his Smart Padala Woes on Migs Paraz's blog... Smart Padala Remittance - an e-commerce option?

He tells of using Smart Padala and finding out that there are problems with the system's compatibility with his SIM. He was told that there is no procedure for refund the amount and send it via the traditional method. Here's Eleazar's story and my reply to him ...

I received a Smart Padala from CBN London on August 11, 2004 with Smart Money No. 5577512482684103. The next day I went to Banco de Oro, McDonalds and SM Dept. Store all to no avail.

I was referrred to Smart Wireless Center and willingly go your Sta. Lucia East Branch in Cainta. A litany of problems were mentioned i.e. Non- 64-k SIM Card, celfone model and they even suggested that I buy a new Super SIM 3 which I did. All of these proved futile. A certain Sheila Buendia from Smart (Head Office?) even called me several times and that they are trying to upgrade my SIM (installing a Smart Money Menu) via remote.

Despite all of these, I still have to get my much needed remittance. Frustrated after more than a month with now solution in sight, I surrendered and contacted my remitter in London to just ask for a refund from CBN and just remit to me the money in the old traditional way - thru a bank, which normally take no more than one day!!

To my surprise, I was told by my remitter that you have no fund recovery/refund procedures in place and was advise that I just call Smart Money Hotline (again!!I) I obliged and just this morning I was told by a certain Doreen Dabon that she cannot do anything and that I will have to go back to Smart Wireless Center again to repeat the same procedures all over again with no guarantee that I will finally get my money stucked with Smart since August 11, 2004.

I dont know what to do now.
Comment by ELEAZAR A. REYES — 9/22/2004 @ 9:25 am
Unfortunately, Eleazar didn't leave his contact email. Nevertheless, I posted this reply on Mig's blog...

Wow, eleazar! It's good that you wrote about your experience. The people at Smart should have this noted already and troubleshoot against having the same problem in the future.

And Wow ykcor! hope your reply helps eleazar.

(as per my understanding... ) eleazar, i think the fundamental problem was -- prior to remittance, the system *should* *have* checked if your original SIM was a 64K SIM.

When your remitter sent the amount, it was sent to your original cellphone number which, it turns out, is not 64K and CANNOT accommodate the SmartPadala Service.

1.) If your original SIM is post-paid (subscription), there is a way for Smart make a 64K SIM for you and retain *the*same* cellphone number. THAT new 64K SIM with the old number is what you can use to retreive your remittance.

2.) If your original SIM is pre-paid, there is no "normal" procedure for creating a 64K SIM with the same original number. Therefore, I think Smart will have to bypass some procedures and provide you with an "ab-normal" procedure of making a 64K SIM for your pre-paid number.

I don't have any solid figures, but out of the 12Million++ Smart subscribers, there is a very small percentage (probably less than 1%) of subscribers using a SIM that's less than 64K.

Eleazar, my guess is your SIM is more than 2-3 years old, correct? Sorry to say, Eleazar, but i think Smart wasn't able to adequately disseminate their procedure for handling the kind of problem you're encountering.

If i were you, eleazar, i would call Smart Padala. Your case is not in the regular call center representative's codigo. You should ask to talk to the _TEAM LEADER_ of the hotline or a _TECHNICAL_ person handling Smart Padala.

(Call Smart Padala hotline +632-845-7788; *7788 using a Smart Cellphone; 1-800-10-845-7788)

Hey, eleazar, hope to hear about the results of your quest! Goodluck

Edwin
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10 Comments:

  • At 10:37 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    ka edong,

    eleazar's problem is smart padala's problem too. i don't understand why smart padala keeps on giving poor eleazar a hard time getting his money, or that of the remitter. they should stop giving eleazar a "run" for his money, quite literally by giving a merry-go-round, solve-it-yourself attitude.

    first off, smart padala has the remitter's money, unremitted to this day. both the remitter and eleazar are holding an empty bag, so to speak. smart padala's accounting records will have a hard time balancing their books until the money is remitted to the rightful owner, that is, eleazar. smart padala doesn't own the money. they operate on a fiduciary trust, and it should not be breached.

    the least smart padala can do is throw in a little goodwill to eleazar and the remitter by giving eleazar his money. he is the rightful owner, passed on by the remitter, not smart padala. they are in the business of money remittance to the satisfaction of both the sender and receiver. i don't think their business is to piss off both the sender and reciver. i don't think, either, that it's their business to pass off solving their technology problem to eleazar or their customers.

    andre faura

     
  • At 10:37 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    ka edong,

    eleazar's problem is smart padala's problem too. i don't understand why smart padala keeps on giving poor eleazar a hard time getting his money, or that of the remitter. they should stop giving eleazar a "run" for his money, quite literally by giving a merry-go-round, solve-it-yourself attitude.

    first off, smart padala has the remitter's money, unremitted to this day. both the remitter and eleazar are holding an empty bag, so to speak. smart padala's accounting records will have a hard time balancing their books until the money is remitted to the rightful owner, that is, eleazar. smart padala doesn't own the money. they operate on a fiduciary trust, and it should not be breached.

    the least smart padala can do is throw in a little goodwill to eleazar and the remitter by giving eleazar his money. he is the rightful owner, passed on by the remitter, not smart padala. they are in the business of money remittance to the satisfaction of both the sender and receiver. i don't think their business is to piss off both the sender and reciver. i don't think, either, that it's their business to pass off solving their technology problem to eleazar or their customers.

    andre faura

     
  • At 2:18 pm, Blogger Edwin "ka edong" said…

    Eleazar,

    I contacted a friend at Smart. Your concern has been brought to the attention of the "SWAT" team of Smart Padala. Let me know what happens ....

    - Edwin

    salamat kabz! what's the next topic after loveseats? ;-)

     
  • At 3:49 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    off topic: is it true that the GFTXT feature of Smart doesn't work if the user who receives the gift text has zero load balance?

    Kind of defeat the purpose of GFTXT, don't you think so?

     
  • At 1:33 pm, Blogger Edwin "ka edong" said…

    > off topic: is it true that the GFTXT feature of Smart doesn't work if the user who receives the gift text has zero load balance?

    > Kind of defeat the purpose of GFTXT, don't you think so?

    Agree. I haven't tried it though, and I don't think its value for your money. I'd rather pasa-load instead of giftxt, di ba?

    pasa-load costs me P1 per transaction. Whereas GifTXT, if i'm not mistaken, costs me P5 for two messages (msg to my friend + my friend's reply to me).

    - edwin

     
  • At 6:28 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ka Edong,

    If nag Pasaload ako sa friend ko, but it happens na off ang celfone niya... macre-credit pa rin ba iyon sa kanya? Remember na nabawasan na ako ng load immediately after making Pasaload. And how many hours ba talaga na-store ang message sa Smart before they (Smart) give up on a message being delivered? Ganun na rin question ko for the Pasaload.

    Medyo absent-minded kasi ang friend ko at laging hindi naka-charge ang fone.

    Many thanx, ka Edong!

    -flubber

     
  • At 4:48 pm, Blogger Edwin "ka edong" said…

    > If nag Pasaload ako sa friend ko, but it happens na off ang celfone niya... macre-credit pa rin ba iyon sa kanya?
    -flubber

    Hi flubber,

    Medyo mala-Ernie Baron ang labas ko nito, a! ;-)

    Flubber, ang *record* kung magkano nalang ang load ng isang SIM ay nasa network (smart/glob/sun) at wala sa cellphone.

    Kahit na naka-off ang cellphone at hindi natanggap ang notice na na-pasahan siya ng load, mag-re-reflect pa rin sa network na na-pasahan siya.

    Therefore, the Pasaload text stating "you received __ amount from _____" is just a notice. If you don't receive that notice because the phone is off, don't worry. The network should still reflect the pasa-load transaction.

    gets?

    how long does the telco keep un-sent messages? I think its something like 12 hours. ma-tanong nga yung kaibigan ko sa smart ....

    Mabu-hey!

    ka ernie baron ... este ka edong

     
  • At 5:47 pm, Blogger Edwin "ka edong" said…

    Just an update. I got word that Eleazar's case has been addressed. Money has been recovered. I didn't get much details. But there ...

    hope these horror stories won't happen anymore. But if they do, hope they surface so that people can discuss them and act on them.

    Cheers!

    ka edong
    salamat manong!

     
  • At 10:03 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anong Countres nga antg sakop ng Smart Padala

     
  • At 9:30 am, Blogger Edwin "ka edong" said…

    Hi Anonymous:

    List of Smart Remittance Partners Abroad

    I was at Singapore last month. And there was a remittance counter that advertised Smart Padala. Note that Singapore is not in the list provided in the link above.

    mabuhay!

    ka edong

     

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